Spent time looking and found this one, bought sight unseen. Turns out is a really well built smoker. Took a reasonable amount of time to build and feels solid. only two small items were not perfect, one was the browning shelf, it was broken on one side (it flaked during the initial seasoning so I won't use it anyway), and a small grill surface which I won't use anyway in the smoker section was cracked. Since neither item affects it's use I am happy. Only rated 4 stars for those two things.